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I was just wondering everyone's opinion on hand coding web pages vs using editors like Dreamweaver. I have some experience with Dreamweaver and hand coding, and I find that doing it by hand keeps it simple, easier to understand, and easier to troubleshoot because there aren't lines of unnecessary code. But I was also wondering if there are any editors out there that doing add as much crap-code as Dreamweaver? I've been hearing a lot about Mozilla Composer, and NVU… does anyone have experience with these? thanks for your responses!

I use a text editor. 90% of what any editor adds is completely uncessary bloated junk.

The reality is, if you are going to hand code your pages and put them into an editor, it's going to change the code around some to suit whatever format your editor is using. Hand coding a website is a pain and a waste of time. For the more sophisticated websites that are typical today, you simply must use an advanced editor. The purpose of the editor is to design without looking at the code unless it is needed. when the need arises to deal with code manually, the editor either has a tool to help you search for a line of code, or you block your code in sections so it is easy to recognize. I also leave myself notes in the code for specific blocks, a bit like this: <!– MESSAGE –> You can add whatever you want in between the brackets to make a message like this stand out from the rest of the code. Also, most editors use a color code when working with the various markups. This makes finding invalid entries very easy as the text will be highlighted in red. once you get to know what the various colors mean and represent, finding what your looking for becomes a snap. Only those who are serious about building websites of quality invest in an HTML editor. to have bragging rights to say you coded a website by hand and it looks like a amateur did it means nothing. I am also tired of the nonsense that FrontPage produces "bloated" code. This is absolute nonsense and a lie. Frontage is a professional HTML editor, not a web design tool like Dreamweaver. in my humble opinion, Dreamweaver is far too complex a program for the average user. An HTML editor also makes the task of linking other pages and managing websites files much easier.

The WYSIWYG editors I've used generally tend to produce overly complex html. Frontpage used to be the worst, but it has improved. The best one I ever tried was HoTMetaL. Mozilla is also pretty good. I have also used Bluefish, Quanta and OpenOffice Writer, but I still prefer a text editor for simple pages.

There is a text editor called Textpad that has a feature called "clipbook" which can speed up coding. I just wish I could find a Linux equivalent

I personally think Hand Coding is easier.If you run into problems later it is a lot easier to find, you have move control over the site, you wil know your site top to bottom and if you validate your sites, it makes it where you have less errors and less fixing. Even though Dreamweaver is easier with less work (less thinking), unless you go back and try to clean up all the extra stuff added in there. An well, there is another editor that adds stuff by Microsoft, cant think of the offical name, its pretty old an i only used i once out of curiousity. But dreamweaver is a lot better about keeping out the extra stuff unlike Microsoft, Microsoft likes to add all the extra stuff everywhere it can. But i haven't tried Mozilla Composer or NVU but i am going to check it out now!

Hand code vs. Editor?